Press
Statement by the Organisers
of Seksualiti Merdeka 2011
of Seksualiti Merdeka 2011
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Contact: seksualiti.merdeka@gmail.com
Date: 5 November 2011
We
are saddened that many Malaysians, including people’s elected representatives, have
seen fit to relentlessly persecute, stigmatise and discriminate all those who
have found a safe space to dialogue and share information and knowledge on
human rights during Seksualiti Merdeka’s events.
We
are Malaysian citizens who are being denied our rights to our identity and self-determination.
The
false allegations and ill-intended remarks made to incite hate towards us are
completely unjustified. They have further marginalized a group of Malaysians
that have long suffered severe marginalization in society. As a United Nations
Human Rights Council member, the Malaysian government should be ashamed for
endorsing and encouraging such intimidation and scare tactics.
Articles
8(1), 8(2) and 10 of our Federal Constitution explicitly guarantees equality of
all Malaysians before the law, protection to all Malaysians from discrimination
on the basis of gender as well as our freedom of speech and association. Furthermore,
in response to the complaints on violations of human rights of the LGBTIQ[1]
community in Malaysia, the National Human Rights Commisssion of Malaysia
(SUHAKAM) has affirmed its stand that “all people, regardless of their sexual
orientation or gender identity, are entitled to enjoy their basic rights as human
beings”.[2]
They have also noted that: “… human rights are for all and the LGBT group is
not excluded. LGBT must be respected as human beings and their differences
cannot be used as reasons to violate their rights. There can be no
justifications for acts such as name calling, bullying and infliction of bodily
harm against them.”[3]
Seksualiti
Merdeka stands for everyone who believes they have a right to make their own
decisions over their bodily autonomy and bodily integrity. We firmly oppose all
forms of stigma, discrimination, and persecution targeted to interfere and deny
our rights to our sexuality.[4]
Sexuality is an integral part of the personality of every human being. Its full
development depends upon the satisfaction of basic human needs such as the
desire for contact, intimacy, emotional expression, pleasure, tenderness, and
love.
Sexual rights are universal human rights based on the inherent
freedom, dignity, and equality of all human beings. These principles and values
are very explicit in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights 1948 and the
United Nations Charter that Malaysia and other countries have signed in order
to become members of the United Nations. By signing, Malaysia agreed to the
preservation of our humanity as a world of nations and to do all that is
necessary to uphold the dignity of every human being. The day Malaysia loses
its humanity is the day that all hope for a better Malaysia dies.
The Malaysian government should, in fact, condemn all forms of
discrimination, stigmatisation and threats of violence and murder in the name
of any religion or belief system; and uphold the human rights of the LGBTIQ
community and sexual rights as human rights. It is in the protection of the
individual’s human rights that community rights are upheld. Clearly, this is
what democracy is all about.
The Malaysian government should uphold our right to conduct
peaceful forums, workshops and performances. The intimidating
displays of hatred and ignorance towards us and calls for us to be shut down demonstrate
why we absolutely need a safe space and event like Seksualiti Merdeka.
The
blanket ban on Seksualiti Merdeka’s programme this year is unprecedented as we
have been conducting similar events over the past few years. In the interest of
the safety of our participants, we will not proceed with all public events of
Seksualiti Merdeka while we seek a meeting with the Inspector General of Police
YB Tan Sri Ismail Omar to explain the objectives of Seksualiti Merdeka.
We
would also like to express our regret that Dato’ Ambiga Sreenevasan, whose sole
role was to officiate the opening in her personal capacity, has been defamed by
those who aggressively and violently oppose the protection, respect, promotion
and fulfillment of the human rights of the LGBTIQ community in Malaysia.
Finally,
we express our heartfelt gratitude to numerous sectors of the Malaysian society
who continue to support our work and the right to discuss our human rights issues.
We remain committed to creating an enabling environment that will help reduce
such unreasonable hostility, such as the incitement of fear and paranoia,
caused by the lack of understanding of sexuality issues as human rights issues.
[1] LGBTIQ: Lesbians,
gays, bisexuals, transgenders, intersex and queer.
[2] http://www.asiapacificforum.net/news/prof-datuk-khaw-lake-tee-human-rights-commission-of-malaysia.html
[3]
http://www.suhakam.org.my/c/document_library/get_file?p_l_id=10408&folderId=32357&name=DLFE-8904.pdf
[4] Adopted in Hong Kong at the 14th World Congress of Sexology,
August 26, 1999. See http://www.worldsexology.org/about_sexualrights.asp
for full definition.
Keep Up with the Good Work, SM...
ReplyDeletetalking about right?pegi mampus la korg.sikit pon kami xpandang golongan xd tamadun cam korg.xyah la ckp psl human right,artikel bagai.bumi xterima kamu.apa kata korg bca pulak surah al-mulk 12.
ReplyDeleteYes, I agree that Ambiga is really good to officiate the opening for the festival, and I support Pang in his wanting to meet with the police to discuss the matter, because the police should be a body that carries out justice in all its forms, neutrally. In fact a ban is a ban and should not accord any other forms of discrimination or intimidation until the matter is resolved. That is not the job of the police. That is nobody's job. Even if you were a criminal, torture in any form cannot be tolerated. We should not seek to punish rather to reform criminals such as murderers and rapists. I hope that the police take their work seriously and conduct it in the most courteous manner as it effects all members of the public and not just heterosexual males. This country has more people than heterosexual males. Heterosexual males do not own the world as it once did. The times are changing and for men to be included in this process they must seek harder to break through the boundaries that separate them the furthest from others. There is a revolution happening out there and it is calling to all heterosexual males to join them.
ReplyDeletehahaha...what the fuck are u talking about???there are boundaries between human rights and total bullshit!!cant u people just understand what u were doing are completely unacceptable??i do hope the police take actions againts u guys..better to stop this before we (proud citizen of Malaysia) take this matter in our own hands..thinking of it...i'm feeling like beating all the maknyah i can find in my area...GTG...got some beating to do...hahaha...
ReplyDeleteIt is quite clear that Homophobic People have a lot of hate and anger over what others do or how others dress up. They also like to use the "F" word in their sentences a lot. Or they will ask people to go to "hell" or "pegi mampus".
ReplyDeleteAnd it is clear that the individuals that support LGBT rights as human rights... they behave so much more like modern, intelligent human beings.
And believe me, Malaysia really does need more modern, intelligent human beings...
To the anonymous person who wants to beat up others because they are just LGBTQ, I bet you are totally insecure of your own sexuality or identity. You are nothing but a useless online bully who does not even have the balls to leave your name.
ReplyDeleteIf you think all your Malaysians are like you, then I am feeling very sad for you. And I feel sorry for whatever religious affiliation you have, for all religions promote peace and acceptance.
BTW, there are enough studies to show that people who like to attack others are insecure. Enough examples have shown us that gay men who suffered from internalised homophobic are most likely to be homophobic attackers.
Mark Walker said : Fear of getting to know someone who is "different " because of race, education, disability, sexuality etc has always led to such stupid actions and worse by govts and individuals.
ReplyDeleteWhat would happen if a LGBT person shunned or attack you because you were "straight" ..GO AND THINK ABOUT IT !!
Keep up the awesome work all you warriors!!! I pray one day everybody will start respecting human rights, and not just shouting "mampus" and "mati", but rather to learn more and understand and compassionate to each other even better.
ReplyDeletewhat's next? legalize gay marriages? burn in hell!!
ReplyDeleteall these while polis x kacau uols. just because this year Ambiga join in, police 'kacau'. so better jauh dari ambiga so that no one will 'disturb' the movement coz it has been few years pun uols bergerak...
ReplyDeletesorry for my mulut celupar, but just making my statement
Its absolutely shameful that there are people in Malaysia, including elected leaders, who are immoral in their condemnation of others because of something they don't like.
ReplyDeleteIn December 2010, the United Nations Secretary General said "Together, we seek the repeal of laws that criminalize homosexuality, that permit discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation or gender identity, that encourage violence. When individuals are attacked, abused or imprisoned because of their sexual orientation, we must speak out. We cannot stand by. We cannot be silent."
If indeed Malaysia is keen in being respected in the international arena, her leaders must take a hard and long look at themselves and how they treat ALL their citizens. Puerile behaviour, harassment and discrimination have no place in a civilised society.
And to all the detractors posting nonsensical and infantile comments, purporting they understand rights, I share these words from the UN which Malaysia is so eager to make a mark with. These were said to mark the UN Declaration calling for the Decriminalisation of Homosexuality:
ReplyDelete“Let there be no confusion: where there is tension between cultural attitudes and universal human rights, universal human rights must carry the day. Personal disapproval, even society’s disapproval, is no excuse to arrest, detain, imprison, harass or torture anyone – ever.
"It (Universal Declaration of Human RIghts) is not called the partial declaration of human rights. It is not the sometimes declaration of human rights. It is the universal Declaration, guaranteeing ALL human beings their basic human rights – without exception. Violence will end only when we confront prejudice. Stigma and discrimination will end only when we agree to speak out. That requires all of us to do our part, to speak out – at home, at work, in our schools and communities – to stand in solidarity”
Call me a right wing but the way I see it, Malaysia is following the orientations of the West while forgetting her Eastern roots and spiritual believes. While I'm saying Malaysia is not perfect (far from it lol), are we sure we want the total freedom as practiced in Europe and America? Are we sure we want their so called "modern society" to be our own?
ReplyDeleteI understand that people with special orientation want to express themselves freely and change the society to be more open. But in doing so, they completely disregard local customs, culture and history. What will become of the family institution for example? In their cheekiness, they accuse their opposers of being backward, inhuman and homophobic.
In the article, the author cited numerous international charters and agreements which Malaysia has signed. From my point of view, the absence of reference to religious texts shows that such behavior is not condoned by (any?) religion and that we are fast forgetting our identity.
Spiritual reasons aside, LBGTQs pose a direct threat to the preservation of the human species (of course we could always clone ourselves). I mean how are we gonna make babies for the next generation? The economy will certainly be affected due to the low fertility rate. We have clear examples in developed countries who have this problem. Unfortunately, a cruel future awaits them.
Toufique,
ReplyDelete1) In a much earlier time, before the time of religion, LGBTQ individuals have existed throughout time and are very much accepted in the culture. It is religion that has changed that culture. Thus, if you are such a purist of your culture, you are to know that religion was non-existent in our real culture. And btw, its funny that you should say you don't want their modern society to be our own when you're typing on the internet (western modernity), go on facebook (western modernity) whilst chomping down on your McDonald's?
2) What identity? Identity as a purely heterosexual country? Was there even such a thing? More like identity as a heterosexual closeted homosexual country. Being a closeted homosexual is like painting over our skin color: changing who we aren't. In that case, aren't we going back in the time whereby we are afraid of being of the Chinese ethnicity because our Malay neighbours want to kill us?
3) For the religious texts, you may read this: http://www.nst.com.my/nst/articles/5azsxm/Article
4) Are you kidding me? a) there's many many kids in the orphanages waiting for homes. b) there's artificial insemination and surrogate mothers. c) there's heterosexuals like yourself to reproduce. And we want kids too, so don't worry about our species going extinct. Oh and on top of that, because we cannot get kids unless if we were to purposely over the months arrange to have children, you can be sure that we have properly planned out to love and cherish and raise that kid with our moral values. We won't accidentally get pregnant and discard the baby by the tong sampah. And when that baby has been discarded by the tong sampah, discovered and sent to the orphanage, we will adopt that baby.
Enough hatred all around. If the authorities are unable to stop to the "Obedient Wives" group which is far more relevant and showing signs of deviating from the religion, why should they ban SM?
ReplyDeleteShows how shallow some people are. Pardon me, but even the 'mak nyahs' have their own support group so why can't the rest of them have some form of support and expression?
The authorities should look more into other pressing and urgent issues instead of poking their noses into other people's private lives.
Toufique, your comment was hilarious. It's not a plague that will take over the face of the earth.
ReplyDeleteIt's just different people among us, who are sick and tired of being bullied and shunned. I doubt that's too much to ask in terms of culture and religion. We make history, not live in it (the past).
I don't think it's much to ask that you stop judging those whom you don't understand.
You guys are a funny lot. I quote from within your own article :
ReplyDelete"Hak masyarakat amnya hanya akan dilindungi apabila hak manusia individu dihormati. Inilah erti sebenar demokrasi"
You don't actually mean than do you? Because in vice versa, you just don't want to give a damn respect for Malaysians, namely people who have major faith in God (be it Christian or Islam, or traditional ) who can't accept the 'queers' you represent.
Vaguely, you're just a bunch of rotting bananas who will agree "IT'S DEMOCRACY" when things go your way, but if it doesn't... you'd say... "IT'S NOT DEMOCRACY... IT'S__________ (you may fill in the blank with any word(s) that you desire).
You know, going for these objectives in a nation that have stated Islam as the official religion,... in a nation populated by majority of men & women believing in God & His rules..., not to mention at the whim of the Yang Di-Pertuan Agong, I do believe you already knew the outcome for the cause,... it is clearly that your objective is actually much more in means of political leg-pulling like how BERSIH was. You know, rather than risking some people of yours to be beaten up by other idiots (which you do know exists in Malaysia) - like how it happened in Bersih... if you're honest for the "people that you fought for"... start by helping those people to get jobs and support them in terms of education.
You know other risks pending to happen on those you thought you're trying to "protect"? Do you know the actual situation? Maybe the gays, lesbians, transvestites, et cetera, now maybe are only less UNaccepted by the community because they weren't an issue before and nobody really give a thought (like how blissful most Malaysians are)? And your movement here just put them on the table while the many of Malaysian sees this as a political move and you guys just increased the level of 'kicks' to those people whom you're trying to "save". - Just look at what's happening, now... medias are playing the 'song', louder and louder... which initially the "people you fought for" don't want to hear, and Malaysians start to open both of their eyes looking for queers.
Some things... are best not to be spoken so it can move freely on its own. Difficulties among the straights and queers were minor before you guys showed up.
We don't hate you. We accept the fact that there is LGBT among us. We are willing to work among you. We will never randomly spit or harm you. But please don't force us to accept your sexual ideology like this.
ReplyDeleteWhy you want to BOLD PROMOTE your lifestyle? It is like telling us that you want us to be like you.
In Islam, LGBT is SINFUL/PROHIBITED as similar to drink winery, eating pigs, pre-marital intercourse, or killing without any good reason. If there is any LGBT who also a Muslim, he/she/etc obviosly SINNER.
Many convention agreement or legal enactment about human rights but when certain part of it clearly contradict with Islamic practice, we Muslim accept the rules by Islam above the other no matter how not popular the rules is.
Sadly you're in Malaysia, you are living right in the middle of muslim community, so please don't contradict much when it comes to issue like this.
YOU ACTION IS LIKE ONE CHEERING FOR ROONEY WHILE SITTING AMONG THE FULL ENERGETIC CROWD OF LIVERPOOL DIE HARD.
Sebagai seorang Inggeris, saya amat jijik bahawa polis Malaysia telah bertindak balas dengan cara ini terhadap SEKSUALITI MERDEKA. Sokongan penuh saya dengan masyarakat Malaysia gay yang telah dianiaya, diganggu dan menakut-nakutkan terlalu lama.
ReplyDeleteIa adalah masa untuk menyokong pergerakan ini pada masa ini penting dan untuk menunjukkan pemimpin-pemimpin Malaysia yang pandangan mereka mengenai isu ini adalah ketinggalan zaman, kuno dan unbelievably taksub.!
Kebanyakan negara-negara lain di dunia, kecuali orang-orang yang berfikir ke belakang, mara ke hadapan dengan isu gay dan diterima, walaupun mereka adalah minoriti, tetapi juga sebahagian daripada umat manusia dan oleh itu mempunyai hak yang sama seperti orang lain.
Saya terkejut dengan kebencian di sini menyatakan dalam komen-komen ini oleh mereka penulis tanpa nama dan taksub.
Saya bersimpati dengan anda Malaysia dan menggesa anda untuk mengekalkan perjuangan yang sukar dan tidak sabar-sabar untuk hari apabila komuniti gay anda diterima dan diberikan hak asasi manusia penuh yang diberikan kepada majoriti rakyat. Saya akan berlaku sudah tentu, tetapi akan mengambil masa.
Anda boleh melihat ke hadapan untuk perkahwinan gay dan undang-undang yang akan membuat ia haram untuk mengganggu masyarakat gay, tidak seperti sekarang.
Nasib baik,
Dekan Johnson.
Terjemahan oleh Google, Bahasa Inggeris di bawah.
As an Englishman, I am disgusted that the Malaysian police have reacted in this way against SEKSUALITI MERDEKA. My full support is with the Malaysian gay community who have been persecuted, harrassed and intimidated for far too long.
It’s time to support this movement at this important time and to show the leaders of Malaysia that their views on this issue are outdated, archaic and unbelievably bigoted.!
Most other countries in the world, excepting those who think backwards, have moved forward with the gay issue and accepted, although they are a minority, but also part of the human race and as such have the same rights as anyone else.
I am surprised at the hatred expressed here in these comments by those anonymous and bigoted writers.
I sympathize with you Malaysia and urge you to keep up your difficult struggle and look forward to the day when your gay community is accepted and awarded full human rights afforded to the majority of citizens. I will happen of course, but will take time.
You can look forward to gay marriage and laws that will make it illegal to harass the gay community, unlike now.
Good luck,
Dean Johnson.
@ Stevenson Chan:
ReplyDeleteLet me use an analogy. Children in poor villages are not getting enough education. You're practically saying we should all keep quiet about it since the villagers aren't complaining and they're completely fine dropping out of school anyway. If we make a big deal out of it, why, those children and parents would become mad, they would realize they're being underserved and knowing this, they'd be so unhappy! Why not leave them in their happy ignorance, right?
Just because something hasn't been an issue to you does not mean others have not suffered from it. I'm sure you would agree that a country or society that has been enslaved or colonized would be better off risking lives fighting for their freedom than cowering before the whip for many generations to come.
What does the fact that LGBT rights are against the religion of a majority of Malaysians have to do with any of this? If you really believe what you're saying, why not ban all non-Islam religions since their teachings are against Islam? Why not ban the selling of pork and alcohol, the business of gambling, the wearing of shorts and mini-skirts? Why not force all Muslim women to wear tudung? Is the state responsible for imposing upon us morality? Why, yes, but only so that one citizen does no harm to another. Within the private life of any citizen, however, the state has no say over his actions.
And yes, we very well mean that a society's rights are only protected when each individual's rights are protected. And in no way do I see how LGBT rights infringe upon your rights. Are you afraid you will see two men holding hands in public? Well, I don't see how such a sight should bother you in any way if you're so confident of your sexuality. Are you afraid for your children then? Well, all I can say is that I grew up under the most heteronormative, religious upbringing, where everyone around me was heterosexual and where men held women's hands, and never did I see a man be intimate with another man, or a woman with another woman. Kinda perplexing how I turned out to be gay huh? In fact, if men aren't allowed to be intimate with other men in public in Malaysia for all these years, and if the media have done such a wonderful job censoring all homosexual acts, why does Malaysia even have LGBT individuals?
Regarding your calling us rotting bananas and proclaimers of democracy at our own whim, give me as many examples as you can of when we said IT'S DEMOCRACY when things were going our way and IT'S NOT DEMOCRACY when things were not and I will show you that in all your examples, we have held to a single idea of democracy. A man who calls a banana and a daffodil yellow and the ocean and the sky not yellow is not simply calling things yellow as he pleases. He has a pretty good idea of what yellow is, don't you think?
I really hope this event can be held in Malaysia.Not for your religion and not for our country,is all about human.If boys and girls can be together,why homosexual cannot?Is it necessary that boys and girls should be together?Think about another's feelings.They were born to be like that,and I respect them as well.With proper education,nothing will happen.Human are the one set up the rule then why we can't change the rule to make other people accept LGBT?
ReplyDeleteWOW! So many self-proclaimed self-righteous and religious people commenting, yet fail to evaluate the prominent hypocrisy shining out from their dark soul. Kudos to you few handful who keep preaching continuously about "homosexuality is against religion" and what other nonsense in-line with being 'uncivilized' (macam Si Mamat Maed tu), when all of you are voicing out threats, hatred, vulgarity and whatnots. Good on you hypo-religious-crites!
ReplyDelete*tips off hat at your idiosyncrasy*
First thing first-I apploud the Police for halting this event.
ReplyDeleteSecond thing-My close friend is a Lesbian. She had couple of Bf's before she started to tryout the other way. Apparantly she says shes happy now that shes in a r/ship with another girl. Im glad she is happy, after all thats our ultimate aim. However,I do not in my right mind support what shes doing. Im sorry, but she wasnt born lesbian, nor does she has 2 genitalia. It was for pure fun she got involved with a female and now shes 'in love' with her partner. My point is, Im not crazy to condone or criticize those who seriously have issues with their sexual orientation.But apart from them,theyre just bunch of people who follow their lust and blinded by hormones to actually realise what theyre doing is against the nature.
Im not blind,I see lesbos and gays everywhere.I work with them. I dont think twice nor do i care.But it does bother me when u start to fondle one another in public, or when u start to kiss one another in mcD where im having dinner with my mum.Come on, this is freaking msia.carry ur blatant behavious in thailand,not here.I like to think we are an accepting society, but not that open till we forgo our culture,religion and social values.
Fact is, I dont care!As long you dont shove it onto our face.Live your life ass you wish.Moreover, since this 'cry for acceptance' comes frm so called social discrimination, you should work towards having a reliable channel where law can be enforced to help those who really have problems.Rest of you, dont be such a drama queen.Nobody hates you,get real n get help.
The title of the article is a joke.Nobody hates you.Dont be stupid to parade around and shouting injuries which you inflict unto urself.
Maria
Maria, you think the title is a joke?
ReplyDeleteYou think getting death threats, and comments like "kawan muslimin sekalian, bila nak mengorbankan puak2 gay ni?" is funny? What about this comment: "gay yukkkkkks boleh blah, mampus pergi neraka, F***!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" is not 'hatred'?
You think living your life as a gay man with all the societal prejudices 'in the name of religion' is something that is stupid and self-inflicted?
You think this is not our culture? Then is watching MTV our culture? What about using computers, smoking, carrying Chanel/LV/Balenciaga bags (all designed by homosexuals btw)? Is that NOT an "Asian Culture" as well?
I'm sorry that you don't understand. Yes some people have a 'gay phase'. And some 'snap out of it' but are still gay, getting romance behind their wives' back. But some of us are born this way. I cannot go straight.
Also, not every Malaysian holds so tightly onto "Islamic" rules/code of ethics. There ARE atheists and non-muslims too in this country. And many of them have absolutely no problem with gays like me.
Would you think they are lesser beings that way?
(and I think many intelligent people would agree with me that your comment reeks arrogance and also a pretty big dose of hate too!)
In the past, my thoughts about discrimination was limited to race, religion & gender only. It wasn't that I was against the LGBT community but it certainly wasn't a community I gave much thought to.
ReplyDeleteHowever, this recent controversy and the virulent bigotry of various commentators in local online media has opened my eyes to what the LGBT community in Malaysia must be facing. For this, SM my thanks although I sympathize with SM being turned into a vote winning issue by the powers that be.
I wish you all the best in getting the ban rescinded and hope you carry on with your efforts to make more Malaysians aware of the issues of the LGBT community.
Farouq Omaro:
ReplyDeleteTo all those who insult, look down or threaten gays and lesbians, you should take a hard look at yourselves. Maybe you are afraid of your own sexuality!!!!!! Or else, how would you explain all the hatred that comes out against Seksualiti Merdeka.
Keep up with your beliefs guys. Malaysia's too close minded for this one. Give it time. It's the new millennium afterall. Ignore the homophobes!! Ramai dah accept LGBT as part of us... bila dah masuk TV baru nak kecoh-kecoh.
ReplyDeleteWow, there are a bunch of ignorant MFs posting here. Start demonstrating some autonomy of thought and confronting what you dislike about this event, ON YOUR OWN TERMS, instead of being a ventriloquist puppet for a nonexistent status quo perpetuated by politicians.
ReplyDeleteIt is funny to see people commenting stuff like GAY is a disease, everyone is going to infected and there is no babies in the future. I mean c'mon, if you think that way, you're obviously having hots for your same sex friends or you're under educated person who has a degree.
ReplyDeleteI want to repeat, this is not a choice. We can't help it. Is like you like that person, he/she might be fat,bitchy and emotional but you love him/her still, why? Because you LOVE him/her. It is the same thing.
And stop speaking for God, if God hates homo, why he created them anyway? So that Hell has some residents? And thank god you're not a sinner? I had seen people who are so not religious suddenly become so religious when this issue comes up.It is a right slap on your face.
And please, enough of the culture stuff. And it is not Western culture to promote homosexual anyway. Stop getting this is from the West and we're the holy East. Underneath, we're just a lonely soul.
Spread love and peace. Not hatred and anger.
What I don't understand is, why do the majority people of Malaysia hate or against the LGBT community?
ReplyDeleteIs it because of their homosexual ways? Is it because so-called macho men can't stand the "mak nyah"? Do they truly believe they are the voice of God and reason in fighting for His ways with vulgarity and abuse?
They say that LGBT community is in perpetual state of sin since it is not a true/natural feeling of love but pure lust and that no one is born homosexual. Religion, culture and biological identity aside, what about the cheating men and wives? What about the college kids who are obviously having sex before marriage? What about hijab-clad school girls who give birth in the public toilet?
Are these not sinners? Just because they do not request for their rights to be "sinners" (so you say) you do not speak out against them? Just because these people do not form a group, it doesn't mean they don't exist and you can't pretend as though they have reasons to act the way they do.
The hatred is most profound in the anonymous posters. And yet why be anonymous? If you are so bold to shout jihad against these people, to boldly say you have the balls to beat another human being simply because you are disgusted with their lifestyle, you should have just enough courage to post who you are. Are you afraid someone might come after you to beat you?
The supporters are being very calm and intelligent about this. We too have anger, we too can be offended, whether or not we are homosexuals that is besides the point. You don't need vulgar words or aggressive behavior to fight for what is right.
Empty cans really do make the most noise.
I wonder if you are truly practicing all the other Islamic ways and watch your mouth and what you say and how you behave, the way the sunnah calls for. Or you're actually a selective Muslim when it comes to things that you don't agree with.
I’m against this SM. But there’s no point arguing here. You may feel that you have the right to be whatever you want to… be it gay/lesbian/or whatever will come out after this. So am I. I’m dutiful to tell you that what you believe or what being uphold by some are morally wrong. Even the chicken knows about it. I’m sorry but it’s.
ReplyDeleteHave you ever seen a cock and a hen going after for another cock? Let me know if you see one! Don’t you think it’s funny? Men were created to be superior to any other creation. Chicken for example. And yet, people like Pang Khee Teik or the not-so-famous Azwan Ali are lowering their standard by being gay.
For all the my Muslim friends;
Did you know why you are here in the first place? What are our purposes of existence? Do those justifications for your deviation make you more human?
For all non-Muslim;
It’s fact that Malaysian is a Muslim country. And if you don’t bother to understand the fundamental principles of Islam, don’t bother to comment or to condemn about Islam and our God. Don’t bother at all. And the least you can do is respect.
Democracy is knowing when to draw the line. I think the government made the right move. The government doesn't hate LGBT, but if they allow such talks to take place it will appear as if they are condoning it - which they probably not. Don't get me wrong, I'm pro-choice. If you choose LGBT as a lifestyle or even you claimed that you were born that way, I don't have a problem with it. But that doesn't mean I agree with your choice. I will tolerate, but not necessarily accept. I will teach my children to respect LGBT as fellow human being but I will definitely make it clear that my faith forbid such behaviour. Personally, I'm not ready to see Malaysia to be liberal in that way. One of my dearest friend is gay and he decided that he should be able to live a normal life and not be wary about what other people think if he and his boyfriend were to hold hands in public. I advised him that he chose a life not normal to our culture, our believes and our values. He can't expect to live a normal life going against the current. There's gonna be constant struggle. It is the reality that he must accept. Both of them moved out of the country. We are still in contact and he is a happier person. I was so proud of his decision. He didn't run away from the problem. In fact, he realised that if he wants people to respect his choice, he should respect other people's choice as well. Just because things don't go your way, doesn't mean that everyone else is wrong.
ReplyDeletegays and lesbians, dont be such a drama queen. Nobody hates you,get real n get help. I like this phrase from Maria. Born this way huh? it think these gays and lesbians are nurtured that way. Dear gays, you don't come out from your mother's with a vagina do you? so pls, refrain from using the 'born this way' crap. Get Help! duh'
ReplyDeleteThis is what i observe from most comment,stating that Islam prohibits this and that about gays and so on so forth.They have facts,but there are no even one of them says how to help this LGBT or to cure them or even a forum or even a workshop to educate these LGBT that they should change.I myself does not agree with the seksualiti merdeka 100%,but then what does the government do to help these ppl,if u kill them it is considered as sin,better to help them but no one in Malaysia wanted to do this,why?because they got more other problem to handle rather than to mess with LGBT things,think again what we can do to help these LGBT,coz they are humans and need to be supported,dont be like Hitler who engage a holocaust just because he hates jews.If u think to kill and punch LGBTs u are the same as Hitler's intention and as cruel as him.If there is Allah's command to kill these LGBTs,then i dont mind,but there are no command upon this in Islam.Think again fellas,dont just be good to judge,but please,think further to a resolution or alternative if u want to help/fix/eradicate these ppl.Dont just give vulgar words to express ur hatred towards these LGBTs.
ReplyDeleteDear Malaysians.
ReplyDeleteI hope that we all realize that we are now living in a Muslim country. I don't like to say this, but I think I should. We all have our faith and in my opinion, everyone has a line that we never should cross. It is sad to see that we are all arguing over so many things.
As a person of faith, I would like to say that there are some things that we couldn't just ignore or force ourselves to like. And everyone have a duty to remind others when something is wrong, or when the person is going too far. I just hope that all those who support these movement to take some time and think about what you are actually looking for in life. Is life just for fun, or some trial that we go through. Life is just once. So I wish that God would shed some light so that you will come close to the path that
God desire.
These are enough issues that we should look into in our country. May we all be blessed and may our country remain peaceful under God's guidance.